March 29, 2013
Hurrah. Hurrah. We’re getting out of Afghanistan in 2014. Maybe. If and when, we know how it will look, because we’ve been there before. Over and over. And will be again, if we let the disgusting, discredited warhogs who lied us into Iraq do to it to us again. Very likely we will let them. We are what we are.
This is from Without Honor: Defeat in Vietnam and Cambodia by Arnold R. Isaacs:
Posted by Jerome Doolittle at March 29, 2013 01:37 PM
We've never lost a war, providing you don't count 1812. And that Civil War thing. And Korea. And Viet Nam.
In one Chomsky talk I listened to, he explained that the planners actually prevailed. They contained communism, scaring the daylights out of any other country in the area which even though of going the way of communism. Maybe he was right.
After all, look at who we placed in Cambodia and the "accomplishments" they managed after everybody had half forgotten the Vietnam business.
Never mind the tin and some other minor resource we temporarily "lost" in Vietnam, which was revealed in a rare moment of candor by Dwight Eisenhower, who revealed what that war was meant for - to the capitalists resource grabbbers, who were the only real losers in the American side of that conflict, aside from the 50,000 or so dead Americans and God only knows how many ruined lives that resulted from that fight for a bit of tin and rubber, or whatever that other minor resource was.
I don't know whether to believe Chomsky or Eisenhower. I suspect there's a bit of truth in both explanations.