October 21, 2011
When the Shouting Dies…
Why say it, when JollyRoger at Plutocrat has said it for me? I’ll only add that as we do unto foreign heads of state, foreign heads of state may one day do unto us.
It bothers me to no end to see “leftists” cheering about us having gotten this guy. From a practical perspective, cheering about Qaddafi’s death is no different from cheering about Saddam’s. Qaddafi getting killed doesn’t solve one problem I’m facing.
Posted by Jerome Doolittle at October 21, 2011 10:35 AM
But, it might give me problems to face later.
Whenever we cheer on simply killing people, rather than lamenting that these people never had a day in Court, we are simply making it easier for Governments to kill off people they find to be irritating. The Government, once given a green light for this kind of behavior, will simply broaden the scope of those it finds reprehensible enough to kill, until the day when Government tries to kill anyone it finds to be irritating.
I far prefer the manner in which we conducted ourselves after World War II. While we made the Nazis and Japanese face the consequences of their activities in Court, Stalin simply murdered millions of German POWs. We established our system as a just system, and our philosophy as one that demanded that even the worst elements among us must be brought before the bar, and prosecuted, so that the whole world would be aware of why it was that we went after these people. We afforded some of the most vile people who ever lived strong defense lawyers, the right to face their accusers, and an opportunity to tell their own stories.
We worked pretty hard to catch people ALIVE back then, just to make sure that we COULD demonstrate to the world that we were dedicated to the cause of justice.
A whole lot of wanted war criminals wound up in the US after the Second World War.
If you ever meet or come in contact with someone who was German, Dutch, Austria or Italian, that was, also, Catholic and came in on a farm workers permit between 1946 and 1949, they were almost undoubtedly wanted war criminals.
There is a book about the program that estimated a minimum of 40,000 to 80,000 war criminals with their families came in this way.
I've met three of them in the US, two actually had proof in their homes of their former ID with pictures in their SS uniforms. I know two Croatians that live in Phoenix, AZ that are both war criminals.
I met a woman on a long bus trip that flat told me that her husband with the SS had "killed a lot of lice."
I met a Dutch war criminal in New Zealand twenty five years ago. It took me 12 to 18 hours of bullying to get him to cough up what he had done. We had flown to Sydney on the same plane and split a hotel room.
I already had purchased knives in the Kings Cross section of Sydney. If my real legal name had not been on the hotel register, he wouldn't have lived til dawn.
My question is why, Evil? I've seen other documentation elsewhere that also confirms what you report.
Your enemy is my enemy. When the farm labor con started being run was when the CIA was developing and a lot of American generals were pushing for war against the Soviets. We had the only nuclear bombs.
The inside the beltway crowd probably figured that they would need a lot of information about eastern Europe and this was their solution.
If I ever see Obama again in person, I plan to tell him that the first drone deaths that occur on US soil are on his head.
He is smart enough that he knows this.