December 12, 2009
Democracy 101

President Barack Obama said in his Nobel acceptance speech that the United States never fought a war against a country with a democratically elected government.

Is this correct ?

If one includes the CIA, then he is clearly mistaken.

Iran and Chile come to mind immediately. Numerous South and Central American countries, too. How about Grenada? Wasn't that government elected ?

I guess it is not fair to count those countries which elected a democratic government, whereupon the U.S. immediately backed reactionaries trying to overthrow the elected government. Venezuela and Algeria come to mind.

There must be plenty of others. Add to the list.


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Posted by Bill Doolittle at December 12, 2009 11:01 AM
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Hitler's NSDAP wasn't democratically elected? Nominally he was appointed as chancellor but only because of the parliamentary victory.

Posted by: mahakal on December 12, 2009 12:32 PM

Guatemala in the 1940's is clearly an example. Wikipedia has a lengthy entry on the subject. Eerily reminiscent of the various actions taken against Hugo Chavez in Venezuela recently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Posted by: Buck on December 12, 2009 1:47 PM

Haiti should also be added. It seems like yesterday but the facts, never reported properly in the newspapers are reported here: http://www.haitiaction.net/HFTH/hfth1.html

Posted by: Buck on December 12, 2009 1:51 PM

Does the civil war count?

Posted by: George on December 12, 2009 8:04 PM

Obama would not be having these holes in his speeches or in his programs if he would simply tap into the blogosphere. Within hours, a speech could be fact checked and ready.

For numbers, if they would just drop the proposal on the blogs, then they would get answers.

Does anyone really believe that it costs $1 million per year to keep a troop in Afghanistan?

The only thing that makes sense to me is to take the developing military from Iraq and put them in Afghanistan. Then take the potential Afghani troops and let them train in Iraq. What we called a "twofer" as a child.

Posted by: More Action on December 13, 2009 2:29 AM

I dunno about the million dollars a year additional. Since Halliburton feeds and houses the troops it might be much, much more than that. I was an accounting major and cost accounting is a specialty all its own. One could make the argument that the salary and the cost of quartering the soldier as well as meal, etc (at Halliburton prices) and bullets, etc would be that really is accrued if the troops are sent over with supplies. But those Halliburton meals are said to be $28 each. Accrued by the government as Halliburton uses virtual slave labor to feed the troops. Come to think of it, with Halliburton doing most of the quartering etc., that million dollars could be low. Very low.

Posted by: Buck on December 13, 2009 1:42 PM
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