August 27, 2007
Observations on the Candidates’ Iraq Positions

One of the things that struck me surveying the Democratic candidates’ websites for positions on the war was the variety of views, plans, and level of detail. Stated positions ranged from a couple of paragraphs to two or three pages. Preliminary indications are that with respect to health care the differences will only increase.

Another aspect in which a lot of variation was evident was the relationship between the visibility of an issue in the candidate’s rhetoric and the amount of detail provided on the website about that issue.

Obama, Brzezinski, and Powell

A significant part of Senator Obama’s appeal, for example, is his early and vocal opposition to attacking Iraq. The appeal is easy to understand, given the complicity of most of the other candidates in initiating the war, with the noble exceptions of Kucinich and Gravel.

Obama’s website has, as far as I can tell, a total of three paragraphs that directly address the situation (one noting his original position, the other two I quoted). As of this post Obama’s site does not seem to mention either Brzezinski’s endorsement or Powell’s contribution of advice. As the inimitable Robert Parry says:

His decision to seek the counsel of Colin Powell — a move leaked by the Obama campaign and confirmed by Powell on NBC’s “Meet the Press” — suggests that the Illinois senator is hoping Powell’s “gravitas” inside Washington might rub off. Powell also retains popularity with many centrist Americans despite his Iraq War role.

But the Obama-Powell alliance may mean, too, that Obama won’t press very hard for an end of the Iraq War since Powell’s current position is that the United States can’t afford to withdraw despite the many errors in implementing the war strategy.

The last time I remember hearing the communicable-gravitas meme was when Chick Deney and Ronald Dumsfeld were gonna hold President Shrub up by his armpits. Of course, Obama’s not an impressionable, faith-based addict personality. Exactly. He’s got a bit of each of those, but they seem to contribute a level of understanding to the final sum.

Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

Compared to Senator Obama, Senator Clinton has an extensive discussion of issues relating to Iraq. She advocates deauthorizing the war and refusing to pass another authorization unless the bill began removing troops from the “sectarian civil war”. She has also proposed capping the troop levels.

Hillary opposes permanent bases in Iraq. She believes we may need a vastly reduced residual force to train Iraqi troops, provide logistical support, and conduct counterterrorism operations. But that is not a permanent force, and she has been clear that she does not plan a permanent occupation.

Does this depend on the definition of “permanent” as opposed to “enduring”, or am I pushing it to parse the statement that finely?

No Anti-War Candidates?

I read somewhere recently a reporter claiming that anti-war Democrats were having trouble finding a candidate they could support. Probably this was Anne Kornblut or some equally unreliable source, but I was still struck by the concept. In particular, because of its patent falsehood.

At a minimum, Edwards, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich, and Gravel support removing all US troops from Iraq, in periods ranging from four to eighteen months. There are certainly logistical issues that would weigh heavily in the decision on a time period, and to me it seems secondary exactly what target we pick. Mainly we need to say we’re leaving, and start doing so.

I get the feeling that those traditional media folks who were supportive of the war, or insufficiently skeptical, are scrambling to make us believe there were and are no other good choices. That we were wrong to oppose it from the beginning, and that our predictions have only come true by chance. Maybe they even believe that.

Then there’s Biden, who certainly wants to end the fighting, but the way he figures to do it is for us to divide the country in a way that makes sense to him but doesn’t seem to be catching on with the Iraqis.

Finally, let me mention the website OnTheIssues, which has a lot of information to compare candidates. More links would be nice, to verify the candidates’ statements and positions, but what’s there is quite useful.

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Posted by Chuck Dupree at August 27, 2007 03:14 AM
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Chuck, it seems that our candidates say we need to keep some troops in Iraq to train the Iraqis (and a lot more troops, I figure, to protect the trainers and trainees), which sounds silly to me.

If we need to train Iraqis (and I'm not sure about that), why don't we bring them here? Have any of the candidates said that?

I have heard that there's an army base in California set up to resemble conditions in Iraq for training our troops before deployment, but because our army's so stretched with long deployments and shortened training, it's nearly empty. Now, if we brought the Iraqis there----

Posted by: Joyful Alternative on August 27, 2007 4:04 AM

Well, Clinton, Obama, and Biden certainly seem to be talking about long-term deployments. The others seem to me to be for pulling out as fast as we can. With 160,000 troops and their associated vehicles and weapons and stuff, plus an estimated 190,000 contractors, many of them neither Iraqi nor American, it's not gonna be something we can get done in two or three months, even if we start today.

But I agree with you about bringing them here. The problem is, we probably wouldn't send them to California but to the "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation", AKA the School of Assassins.

Posted by: Chuck Dupree on August 27, 2007 4:39 AM

Following your link, I see that one Steven C. Clemons of The Washington Note thinks "Brzezinski is one of the greatest strategic minds alive today and does understand the need to make changes in policy today to generate different outcomes tomorrow." Holy, if I may say so, shit. Brz supported the Khmer Rouge when the N. Vietnamese tried to crush them, and kept Pol Pot and his boys alive and kicking for nearly ten years. The great strategic thinker was also as responsible as any man alive for creating Osama bin Laden (by using the CIA to arm the muhjedin (sp?) so as to give the USSR its "own Vietnam", a stroke of genius which led directly to 9/11 and our very own Vietnam redux in Iraq.

If Obama is taking advice from this clown, I'm having serious second thoughts about him.

Posted by: CCRyder on August 27, 2007 10:59 PM

Along with a lot of other stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Including gloating over drawing the USSR into invading Afghanistan. And for all the conspiracy folks, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, along with David Rockefeller. Which was instrumental in bringing along Gov. Carter, so I guess that means we here at BA are also part of the conspiracy…

Could the Democrats nominate Obama thinking that he represents change, only to find out that it's the SOS?

My feeling is that he's got a good heart and he's trying to make a positive difference, and I give him high marks for using that as an entry into the discussion. We need that. And of course he's the best speaker I've ever heard. But at this point he seems stuck on conventional responses to brand-new problems.

I think we need big change. Not 100,000 more people in the military, but a refusal to bomb other countries unless they attack us first. Truly universal health care, not help with buying insurance. Exit from Iraq. I'd love to hear Obama say he's for those things. So far, he hasn't.

I do like his position on the strategic importance of certain manufacturing industries like semiconductors and steel; also on Cuba, and in general on talking with non-friends. He's right about that, but then that only seems impressive compared to Bush. Everyone else would agree with Obama, though they might quibble with his wording.

Posted by: Chuck Dupree on August 28, 2007 1:56 AM

According to the Post, Obama's staff has a heavy concentration of wild-eyed radicals from the former staff of Tom Daschle. Encouraging, eh?

Posted by: Chuck Dupree on August 28, 2007 2:52 AM
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