December 07, 2005
The Milquetoast Wing
Strong antiwar comments in recent days by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean have opened anew a party rift over Iraq, with some lawmakers warning that the leadersí rhetorical blasts could harm efforts to win control of Congress next year.

Listen up, team; this is not that complicated. If we donít run against the war, we canít win either house. And I offer this in a cold-blooded vein; it doesnít matter if at bottom you are for or against the war, or for or against a timetable for withdrawal. If you want Democrats to win, you need to offer a different choice on the leading issue of the day.

How is it that the lesson of John Kerry is lost on these clowns? If the people want to elect a pro-war party, they already have a perfectly good one in place, and wonít switch just because the Democrats say they are nicer or more competent guys.

And, please, people, does it really make sense to hitch your wagon to a star (i.e., the pro-war position) that has fallen from near 90 percent three years ago to 40 percent (at best) today?

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Posted by Wayne Uff at December 07, 2005 06:34 AM
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According to the MSM (read conservative) meme, Dean, showing his lack of sophistication and nuance, once again said something that actually made sense. Who, in their right mind, actually believes that this war (read occupation) is actually winnable. Not in my life time, certainly, and maybe not within my children's lifetime.

But, the proponents say, we will be sending the wrong message. This will embolden the terrorists. They're already emboldened as they see our pathetic, lame attempts to pacify Iraq. And they will still remain emboldened when we pull out in two years, or five years, or ten years.

We pulled out of Viet Nam. Did the North Vietnamese or the communists take over the world? Au contraire.

But there still is a consensus amongst our political elite that we need to maintain a strong presence in the Middle East for the indefinite future, at least until the oil runs out. As long as we remain dependent on Middle East oil, we will maintain that presence, whether under Republicans or Democrats.

And, whether one is on the right or the left, whether prowar or antiwar, as long as we refuse to give up our profligate lifestyle, we support at least a military presence. Message: Don't drive your SUV to a peace rally.

Posted by: tstreet on December 7, 2005 9:57 AM

Speaking of peace rallies, my pal Monique invites you all:

Protest the Bush Agenda of War & Militarism, of "Staying the Course" of Death and Occupation

George Bush is coming to Philadelphia on Monday (December 12) to speak to the Phila. World Affairs Council at the Phila. Marriott Hotel, 1201 Market Street. His words of war will not be the only ones heard on Monday in Philadelphia.

Gather at Noon on the west side of Phila. City Hall, 15th & Market Sts. for a reading of the names of war dead - Iraqi and U.S. - and voices of war resistance and justice. From the City Hall we will attempt to take a message of public opposition as far as possible to the world's chief war-maker! Bring your sign, bring a friend, bring your voice to Phila. City Hall (west side) on Monday.

For more information: Brandywine Peace Community, 610-544-1818

Posted by: Joyful Alternative on December 7, 2005 9:49 PM

Absolutely damn right. As Nader says his father told him, we don't need a third party in US politics, we need a second party. Pretty much any second party can win. But a first-party-lite can't.

Posted by: Chuck Dupree (Belisarius) on December 7, 2005 10:56 PM

re: our protesting Bush in Phila, this coming Monday (12/12),please note that we have made a change. To be more visible

WE will be at BROAD & WALNUT
Join the Protest : 10AM -1PM
WOW! the list of endorsers is getting larger by the day!

Partial list of endorsers:
Philly VietNam Veterans Against the War
Phila Veterans For Peace
Military Families, and Gold Star Moms
Brandywine Peace Community
African American Freedom and Reconstruction League
Phila. International Action Center
Jobs with Justice
Suburban Greens
Women's International League for Peace & Freedom
House of Grace Catholic Worker
Shalom Center
Phila REGIONAL ANTI WAR NETWORK { PRAWN }
and MORE!

Posted by: Monique on December 10, 2005 12:07 AM
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