November 07, 2005
Kansas Republican Comes Out For Torture
Sen. Pat Roberts, Kansas Republican and chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, [oppposing McCain’s proposal for a manual on what U.S. troops and agents can and can’t do to prisoners], said the proposal by Sen. John McCain would “sanction a manual yet to be written with a classified annex clearly pointing out to the military what they can and cannot do.” “You’re only successful with detention and interrogation when the detainee has a fear of the unknown, doesn’t know what’s going to happen,” Mr. Roberts told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

“That manual that we put out will be the first chapter in the al Qaeda manual on what can happen and what can’t happen,” he said.

Mr. Roberts was one of nine senators who voted against a rider to the defense spending bill last month that prohibits “inhumane treatment” of detainees to obtain intelligence information in the war against terror.

“That doesn’t mean I’m for torture,” Mr. Roberts said.

Actually, it does, Senator. It also means that you are officially one of the Weakentroopers, standing foursquare behind the pathological Bush program of continuing to weaken, marginalize, and humiliate our formerly great nation abroad, while endangering us at home.

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Posted by Wayne Uff at November 07, 2005 07:24 AM
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The classic role of politically-organized torture (as Dick Cheney surely is aware) is not to gain information from the tortured, not to "teach the tortured a lesson"---the intent of the torture regime is to instruct the onlookers---the domestic citizenry---to be quiet: "If you are a good citizen and don't question our management style, you have nothing to fear !"

Posted by: Hoffmann on November 7, 2005 11:44 AM

Hoffmann: That`s exactly it.

It's also what sharia (Islamic law) is about, as the fundamentalists look upon it.

For example, Mayor Oscar Goodman of Las Vegas, who suggested Wednesday that those who deface freeways with graffiti should have their thumbs cut off on television.

"I'm saying maybe you put them on TV and cut off a thumb."

He added: "I'm dead serious."

He also referred to Old France of Old Europe, where they used to behead people "who commit(ed) heinous crimes" (like spraying graffiti?).

I wonder, did he really mean the French Revolution?

Look here:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2005/nov/03/519606498.html

Posted by: Peter on November 8, 2005 9:03 AM
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